Darktable for Linux or Mac OS X (Free)


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sfink16
Darktable for Linux or Mac OS X (Free)

This software is very good.

 

The good --> Very good noise reduction options (multiple options), several curve options, several white balance options, several tone mapping options.  Blending in many options similar to Lightzone.  It even has a zone mapping feature similar to the one found in LZ (Ansel Adams).  Framing and water marks are available similar to those desired in LZ's Wish List.

 

The bad --> It only offers Unsharp Mask for sharpening.  I wish it had smart sharpening like other softwares offer.  Exporting/converting/saving is cumbersome.

 

Here are the features of the latest release-->  http://www.darktable.org/about/features/

 

Steve

dke
Darktable

Partha Bagchi is searching for volunteers to test his Darktable 2.0 Windows build:

https://plus.google.com/+ParthaBagchi

dke

sfink16
Which Windows?

are you talking about?  I went to the site listed but couldn't figure much out there.  I don't run on windows normally but I do have Windows 10 available to me.

 

Steve

dke
Which Windows?

It works in Windows 7 and I think it should work with the latest Windows versions.

It is possible to contact Partha via the e-mai address in the lower right corner of his site

http://www.partha.com/

dke

sfink16
When I Get a Chance

I'll try to contact him.

 

Steve

Photonoxx
Darkatble is interresting,

Darkatble is interresting, but, the main criticism I could do is for its complexity which make it, imho, not very intuitive but with many possibilities. By the way, in my souvenirs, some tools gives the impression to be a bit redundant.

sfink16
Good Analysis

Darktable does indeed seem to have redundant tools and is not very intuitive.  I had to careful view videos to help my learning of it.  I was surprised to see the Zone tool inside and noticed that it looks similar to LZ's Zonemapper tool.  It's a very good tool IMO.

 

Steve

dke
Darktable 2.0 for Windows 64-bit

is available at http://www.partha.com/ now. Thanks a lot to Partha who did a great job.

dke

Jacal
I recommend Windows users to try this

Having only a brief experience with the program on Linux, now I actually made a couple of edits, that I liked, using Windows version. It has some cosmetic glitches, but seems to be stable. (I wasn't smart enough to set the export format, but found the solution on Partha's Google+ page.)

 

It did take some time, though, I had to read the manual and consult video tutorials. In some ways, Darktable merges, at least partially, different LightZone's and RawTherapee's strongest features in one place.

 

This being a completely subjective impression, I did like produced images, while with RawTherapee, that I am more familiar with, I can rarely achieve this. The tool of my choice is LightZone, a very different program, simpler and more "intuitive", and it should, I believe, stay that way. But watching and using these two powerful raw editors can be, I think, valuable for further development of LightZone.

 

RawTherapee is made by geeks to be used by geeks, they love (and understand) algorithms, and when they spot a promising one, they can't wait to include it into the program. Some similar features could be carefully added to LightZone. For instance, LZ does not need 10 demosaicing algorithms, but adding one for noisy photos could be useful.

 

Combining sharpening and noise reduction can always be problematic, although the "big" editors (and cameras themselves) do this all the time. I was surprised, how Darktable's denoise (non-local means) did this, with very low settings, very low impact on details and excellently denoising "problematic" parts (that can be seen only at 100 %). Using LZ, I tend not to use "grain" NR at all. (But, if I remember correctly, Masahiro has improvements on his to-do list.)

 

Anyway, the developers should decide, which LightZone features they would like to work on. We can't hire new ones, it would be nice to attract some. I hope Tex will manage to add a way to donate to this project to at least cover regular expenses. We can not give the time back, like for all the troubles with this web site, simply trying to keep it functional, with no erection-related (or other) commercials.

 

Have all a nice day,

 

Mart

 

 

tex
Thanks, Mart, as always...

Valuable observations.  As you noted, there are some things on Masahiro's to-do list, and adding a donations feature here is very high on mine now for obvious reasons.  Some cool things are starting to gel behind the scenes, I think, that have me energized.  So, these particular comments of yours are quite timely, and the quick analysis of Darktable's strengths and Rawtherapee's is insightful, I think.  Also timely.

sfink16
Mart, The Big Three

I like each program you mention as well in Raw Therapee, LZ, and Darktable, although I'm still having issues with LZ and changing blending modes using Ubuntu 15.10.  I have not tried Darktable in Windows yet to compare with Linux but will soon.  Raw Therapee simply blows up, if I use the "high end" features such as tone mapping, to the point where it seems to never be able to finish converting images.  

 

I really like how Darktable handles noise, including a "profiled" denoiser where it reads the metadata ISO and uses it in the tool.  The equalizer does a great job of sharpening and noise reduction together.  The zone system is similar to LZ zonemapper and works very well.

 

Steve